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Re: The renovation from hell. Pics updated 7/03 [message #168400 is a reply to message #144816 ]

Thu, 06 July 2006 00:07

Tidewater
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It's come together nicely.

Don't be jealous, it was terribly painful.

M

Dr. Miles Hendrix

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Re: The renovation from hell. Pics updated 7/03 [message #168504 is a reply to message #144816 ]

Thu, 06 July 2006 12:21

Fibes
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Yes very painful, even for me.

We are doing a tracking session tonite to replace some vocals on a bands EP since they now have a new singer. Wish us luck.

BTW are there any questions about the process, details, treatments or stuff that any of you are interested in (at all)?

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Re: The renovation from hell. Pics updated 7/03 [message #168511 is a reply to message #144816 ]

Thu, 06 July 2006 12:28

Tidewater
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Yes, about treatment... SLAVE DRIVER!

M

Dr. Miles Hendrix

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Thu, 06 July 2006 12:33

Fibes
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/0 wrote on Thu, 06 July 2006 13:28

Yes, about treatment... SLAVE DRIVER!

M

I do not own Miles, he sold his soul for a taco years ago.

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Re: The renovation from hell. Pics updated 7/03 [message #168524 is a reply to message #144816 ]

Thu, 06 July 2006 12:45

floodstage
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I'm not sure I understand how you keep roof noise out.

What's the structure made of from the roof down to the ceiling treatment?

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Thu, 06 July 2006 12:54

Fibes
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floodstage wrote on Thu, 06 July 2006 13:45

I'm not sure I understand how you keep roof noise out.

What's the structure made of from the roof down to the ceiling treatment?

It's not ideal but the flat roof was covered with a pitched roof years ago so in effect there is a giant airspace above my ceiling. The next step is to seal up and blow in more insulation above the ceiling to help attenuate when it rains heavily. That is the only time I have any issues is during a torrential downpour.

In the control room we hung wood runners and attached rockwool above them, stapled screen in and covered it with fabric. In the tracking room they are wood frames stuffed with insulation and wrapped with peg board with fabric on the inside to keep the insulation from raining down.

Is that what you were asking?

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Re: The renovation from hell. Pics updated 7/03 [message #168532 is a reply to message #144816 ]

Thu, 06 July 2006 13:06

Tidewater
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There was a bit of simple logic, and some evil genius in the floor plan of the live room. No surface is faced directly to any other surface. 95% diffuse.

It works. With a 57 aimed 120° off the drums, and about 10-12' back, SLAMMIN'!

I cannot wait to cranka de big guitara!

M

Dr. Miles Hendrix

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Re: The renovation from hell. Pics updated 7/03 [message #169537 is a reply to message #168526 ]

Sun, 09 July 2006 21:39

floodstage
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Fibes wrote on Thu, 06 July 2006 12:54

Is that what you were asking?

Yes. That 'splains it!

A different question.
How close are those Adam's to the wall behind them?

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Mon, 10 July 2006 05:02

Fibes
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floodstage wrote on Sun, 09 July 2006 22:39

Fibes wrote on Thu, 06 July 2006 12:54

Is that what you were asking?

Yes. That 'splains it!

A different question.
How close are those Adam's to the wall behind them?

The wall that you see is a false wall/trapping wall so in essence the Adams are sitting about 2 feet off the "hard wall" and 6-12" off of the trap wall. We tried them out a little farther but lost something and moved them around for a while until they found their spot. It took about 2 hours to locate where they were happy which is a heck of a lot quicker than the old scenario where it took three days plus.

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Re: The renovation from hell. Pics updated 7/03 [message #171277 is a reply to message #144816 ]

Sun, 16 July 2006 11:44

Vertigo
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Those walls are AWESOME, they just look so "fun", and the whole CR is looking great!

I guess my question is - how did you find a house with a basement in Savannah??

-Lance

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Sun, 16 July 2006 12:56

Fibes
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Vertigo wrote on Sun, 16 July 2006 12:44

Those walls are AWESOME, they just look so "fun", and the whole CR is looking great!

I guess my question is - how did you find a house with a basement in Savannah??

-Lance

It's not a house and it's not in a basement.

There are plenty of places with basements here but not like in the north country where they are needed due to the frost line.

Time to mix some jazz.

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Re: The renovation from hell. Pics updated 7/03 [message #173278 is a reply to message #144816 ]

Sun, 23 July 2006 20:19

Juergen
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Wow!!!

judging by the pictures and jovial mood (and of course, y'alls kick-ass room design) me thinks i should start renovating my place too.

What difference is there between the low-end and broadband absorbers?

Also, in the 'CRFrontwall' pic I noticed the acoustic material (703s?) look different in the middle than on the "sides" of the front wall. Is there an actual difference?

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Sun, 23 July 2006 22:10

Fibes
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Juergen wrote on Sun, 23 July 2006 21:19

The deep bass traps are Ethan Winer style diaphragm traps and the broadband absorbers are merely fiberglass stuffed behing peg board.

The center of the CR wall had 703 (1.5") mounted 4" from the solid wall and was covered in peg board, the sides were 3" heavy rockwool cut tight to the studs for bass trapping in the corners and were covered by screen and then fabric..

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Re: The renovation from hell. Pics updated 7/03 [message #173672 is a reply to message #144816 ]

Tue, 25 July 2006 09:06

Fibes
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No new pics yet 'cause we've been working.

Last night we tracked a great drummer and for the first time I got to hear the room as it was intended. The plan was to replace a drummer from Saturdays session who wasn't cutting it and surprise the client with the results when we sent in the new guitars, keys and steel so it was a quick setup and track...

We added two Bova Ball room mics to the equation, and went with the setup from Saturday. OMFG it was night and day, the room was speaking to us and the best thing besides Miles' "Holy shit" was the drummer coming back in after playback and saying "that's the way I hear it when I'm playing, and it's so natural." Anywho, we've got some wiring issues to deal with and once those are straight we're firing on all cylanders again.

More pics soon.

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Thu, 10 August 2006 19:55

elcabron
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beautiful job Fibes and Miles.
real nice.

Eddie

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Tue, 19 December 2006 12:22

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Fibes wrote on Tue, 25 July 2006 07:06

More pics soon.

Boy, I am glad you didn't say "I'll be out of the washroom soon" Razz

Define "soon" ...LOL

(Some "after" pics would be real cool guys... if you have the time.)

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