| Re: U87 Clone? [message #205945 is a reply to message #200993 ] |
Thu, 14 December 2006 11:24   |
Kurt Foster Messages: 163 Registered: September 2005 Location: Somewhere Between The Des... |
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I own a "newer" U87 ai which I purchased new around '95. The sound is very smooth in the midrange with a sense of "silk" in the high end. My favorite preamp to use with my U87 currently is a Sebatron vmp ...
In the budget realm, the one mic that I have come across that sounds even close to similar to my U87 is the KEL HM-1 which goes for about $125 each. It replicates the smoothness of the mid range but it does not exhibit the silk of the Nuemann.
I believe that KEL has a liberal return policy which allows you the chance to drive it before you decide to keep it. these mics have been more than useful in my mic locker. I use them all the time for guitar amps and snare drums. As always, ymmv. I hope that helps
Good Luck with your endeavors,
Kurt
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I know I promised to let Harvey to check these mics out several months ago but to be honest, I just can't seem to find a time slot where I don't need them. I will keep this on my "to do" list and hopefully soon I can get them to him for his assessment. meanwhile I suggest you give them a listen for yourselves!
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| Re: U87 Clone? [message #206206 is a reply to message #200993 ] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 10:19   |
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I will second Kurt's rec of the KEL HM-1. Very nice little mics.
I like the fact that they are not extra-fied on the high end.
High end is highly overrated.
Unless it's silky.
Also a GREAT mic to try out would be the K2.
Very versatile.
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| Re: U87 Clone? [message #206236 is a reply to message #206206 ] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 11:49   |
hargerst Messages: 1354 Registered: April 2004 Location: Sanger, TX |
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| compasspnt wrote on Fri, 15 December 2006 10:19 | I will second Kurt's rec of the KEL HM-1. Very nice little mics.
I like the fact that they are not extra-fied on the high end.
High end is highly overrated.
Unless it's silky.
Also a GREAT mic to try out would be the K2.
Very versatile.
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As far as a silky top end goes (in inexpensive mics), I really like the Studio Projects T3.
Harvey "Wait, I didn't say 'Rolling" yet." Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
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| Re: U87 Clone? [message #206281 is a reply to message #206236 ] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 15:19   |
Kurt Foster Messages: 163 Registered: September 2005 Location: Somewhere Between The Des... |
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| hargerst wrote on Fri, 15 December 2006 09:49 |
| compasspnt wrote on Fri, 15 December 2006 10:19 | I will second Kurt's rec of the KEL HM-1. Very nice little mics.
I like the fact that they are not extra-fied on the high end.
High end is highly overrated.
Unless it's silky.
Also a GREAT mic to try out would be the K2.
Very versatile.
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As far as a silky top end goes (in inexpensive mics), I really like the Studio Projects T3.
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Harvey,
Is the T3 anything like a C12 in tems of its sound?
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| Re: U87 Clone? [message #206315 is a reply to message #206281 ] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 18:42   |
hargerst Messages: 1354 Registered: April 2004 Location: Sanger, TX |
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| Kurt Foster wrote |
Harvey,
Is the T3 anything like a C12 in terms of its sound?
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I don't have a C12, so I can't do a direct comparison.
Harvey "Wait, I didn't say 'Rolling" yet." Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
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| Re: U87 Clone? [message #207125 is a reply to message #207112 ] |
Tue, 19 December 2006 08:43   |
hargerst Messages: 1354 Registered: April 2004 Location: Sanger, TX |
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Actually, that quote is from Klaus Heyne when this thread was in his forum. Here's the whole quote:
"This is not the snooty mic forum for self-important people, if that is what you are alluding to. But it may indeed be the wrong forum for your needs because the people who by and large frequent this forum are professionals who may not be familiar with low-cost alternatives to professional mics.
I will gladly move this thread over to Harvey's forum, as was suggested, as I truly believe you will be better served there, and that is really what counts."
Now, moving this thread here is fine, because I do look for low priced alternatives to high dollar equipment. But to suggest that my forum is not for professionals, or that suggestions here won't give you professional results is ludicrous.
Put Al Schmitt, George Massenburg, Ed Cherney, or Terry Manning in an all-Behringer studio, and tell me that what comes out of there won't be "professional", or good enough for major label distribution*. I'll reply with one word: Bullshit.
Mics aren't "professional", it's the people that use the mics; they are the "professionals".
*That doesn't mean they will ever speak to you again, if you do.
Harvey "Wait, I didn't say 'Rolling" yet." Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
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| Re: U87 Clone? [message #207147 is a reply to message #207125 ] |
Tue, 19 December 2006 09:39   |
Trumpetman2 Messages: 320 Registered: April 2004 Location: Fort Washington, MD |
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| hargerst wrote on Tue, 19 December 2006 09:43 | Actually, that quote is from Klaus Heyne when this thread was in his forum. Here's the whole quote:
"This is not the snooty mic forum for self-important people, if that is what you are alluding to. But it may indeed be the wrong forum for your needs because the people who by and large frequent this forum are professionals who may not be familiar with low-cost alternatives to professional mics.
I will gladly move this thread over to Harvey's forum, as was suggested, as I truly believe you will be better served there, and that is really what counts."
Now, moving this thread here is fine, because I do look for low priced alternatives to high dollar equipment. But to suggest that my forum is not for professionals, or that suggestions here won't give you professional results is ludicrous.
Put Al Schmitt, George Massenburg, Ed Cherney, or Terry Manning in an all-Behringer studio, and tell me that what comes out of there won't be "professional", or good enough for major label distribution*. I'll reply with one word: Bullshit.
Mics aren't "professional", it's the people that use the mics; they are the "professionals".
*That doesn't mean they will ever speak to you again, if you do.
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Harvey: I agree w/you 100% - so it appears that maybe that "other" forum might just be the "snooty mic forum for self-important people..." hmmm.
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| Re: U87 Clone? [message #207270 is a reply to message #200993 ] |
Tue, 19 December 2006 14:37   |
sonny Messages: 91 Registered: September 2006 Location: Old Street London |
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Rode NT2000. Not identical but does a similare job and has similar applications. Bit more top in them but a 5k shelf @ -2db sorts it usually.
Sonny
Pinna Productions
sonny@pinnaproductions.com
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| Re: U87 Clone? [message #207285 is a reply to message #207161 ] |
Tue, 19 December 2006 15:07   |
Dave Martin Messages: 331 Registered: April 2004 Location: Nashville, TN |
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| Fibes wrote on Tue, 19 December 2006 10:18 | Heh.
That's why this is still referred to as Harvey's forum even though Dave and I get to hang here.
Harvey is the man.
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Well, we'll get to hang here until someone in a position of authority wises up and realizes that it IS Harvey's forum and takes our names off ...
Dave Martin
Nashville, TN
Java Jive Studio
Cuppa Joe Records
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