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Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338505]

Fri, 02 May 2008 10:30

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A fascinating article. Selfish destroys selfish.

http://www.physorg.com/news128877396.html

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Torture “is basically subject to perception,” CIA counterterrorism lawyer Jonathan Fredman told a group of military and intelligence officials gathered at the U.S.-run detention camp in Cuba on Oct. 2, 2002, according to minutes of the meeting. “If the detainee dies, you’re doing it wrong.”

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Re: Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338708 is a reply to message #338505 ]

Fri, 02 May 2008 23:44

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Re: Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338712 is a reply to message #338505 ]

Sat, 03 May 2008 00:02

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Re: Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338715 is a reply to message #338505 ]

Sat, 03 May 2008 00:32

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Re: Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338718 is a reply to message #338505 ]

Sat, 03 May 2008 00:50

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altruism is a pathological state

try walking into a renal unit and saying that you want to donate a kidney

see how long before the boys in white arrive...

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Re: Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338750 is a reply to message #338718 ]

Sat, 03 May 2008 09:52

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maxim wrote on Fri, 02 May 2008 22:50

altruism is a pathological state

try walking into a renal unit and saying that you want to donate a kidney

see how long before the boys in white arrive...

But you are often solicited to sign up for bone marrow matching, which is admittedly less invasive but still an act of altruism. There are degrees of altruism.

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Re: Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338802 is a reply to message #338505 ]

Sat, 03 May 2008 21:14

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uh........

ok, so its good to be an ass-hole?

as long as you are eliminating other ass-holes?

or something like that?

really this is great. it will help to encourage, excuse and reward
"perceived" and unacceptable behavior patterns we tend discourage in a civil society.who knew?

lets roll this BS out into the schools fast to make sure future generations understand it clearly.

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Sat, 03 May 2008 22:32

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I think it's saying assholism is self-limiting. That would be good news, sort of.

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Re: Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338809 is a reply to message #338807 ]

Sat, 03 May 2008 22:43

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What is being said is that assholes won't put up with other assholes. Therefore assholes attempt to eliminate each other, which over time, means less assholes. This then allows more altruistic personalities to propagate.

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Torture “is basically subject to perception,” CIA counterterrorism lawyer Jonathan Fredman told a group of military and intelligence officials gathered at the U.S.-run detention camp in Cuba on Oct. 2, 2002, according to minutes of the meeting. “If the detainee dies, you’re doing it wrong.”

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Sat, 03 May 2008 23:44

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i'd like to offer up my asshole-ness up for study groups to learn more about me.

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Re: Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338821 is a reply to message #338815 ]

Sun, 04 May 2008 00:49

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I'm sorry but to get an accurate assessment you would need to talk to another asshole.

Oh, wait! That would be me!!

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Torture “is basically subject to perception,” CIA counterterrorism lawyer Jonathan Fredman told a group of military and intelligence officials gathered at the U.S.-run detention camp in Cuba on Oct. 2, 2002, according to minutes of the meeting. “If the detainee dies, you’re doing it wrong.”

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Re: Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338833 is a reply to message #338505 ]

Sun, 04 May 2008 04:33

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what about when assholes become PRESIDENT????

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Sun, 04 May 2008 07:39

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MDM, wrote on Sun, 04 May 2008 10:33

what about when assholes become PRESIDENT????

"Assholes don't let other assholes become president"

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Re: Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338858 is a reply to message #338843 ]

Sun, 04 May 2008 10:45

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Sometimes asshole presidents destroy themselves. And when they do, sometimes other assholes in their administration help them. Thus the theory holds true.

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Torture “is basically subject to perception,” CIA counterterrorism lawyer Jonathan Fredman told a group of military and intelligence officials gathered at the U.S.-run detention camp in Cuba on Oct. 2, 2002, according to minutes of the meeting. “If the detainee dies, you’re doing it wrong.”

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MDM, wrote on Sun, 04 May 2008 10:33

what about when assholes become PRESIDENT????

Hmm, the first thing he'll do is to take out another asshole president.

'I'm so old now. I used to have so much mercy.' - The Doctor

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Re: Researchers Explore Altruism's Unexpected Ally -- Selfishness [message #338883 is a reply to message #338505 ]

Sun, 04 May 2008 12:37

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"Individuals who behave altruistically are vulnerable to exploitation by more selfish individuals within their own group"

I don't think the theory is as relevant as it wants to be as it focuses on group rather gene while the overwhelming majority of altrustic acts are driven by nepotism (genes). I believe Daniel Farris was right in his referral.

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