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Re: Neumann TLM 67...why? [message #339921 is a reply to message #339915 ]

Thu, 08 May 2008 22:06

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Thanks Rick. Now I'm "in the know". It's so hard to keep up with all the news and all the acronyms.

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Fri, 09 May 2008 02:47

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Tomas Danko wrote on Thu, 08 May 2008 07:43

As far as EQing a vocal track recorded using the TLM49, I have to say the sound falls apart quite quickly once you start processing it with EQ. Especially the treble. It just goes into mush up there, and the transients get weird. I started using the TLM103 over the TLM49 here just for that reason alone, before I went to other mics.

Yes, it does fall apart. I was talking about adding the low end that doesn't exist, or pulling out some of those mids that make the mic hard to listen to on piano or on OHs.

And as far as saying "it's a nice vocal mic" or whatever, I'm being generous.

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Re: Neumann TLM 67...why? [message #339976 is a reply to message #339530 ]

Fri, 09 May 2008 06:46

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Re: Neumann TLM 67...why? [message #340012 is a reply to message #339976 ]

Fri, 09 May 2008 09:59

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I'm so glad our status is no longer "Has way too much time on his hands."

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Fri, 09 May 2008 10:55

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Nobody has heard this mike but everybody's already throwing shit on it? What attitude is this? This really makes me wonder.

Regarding the initial question" TLM67....why?":

Marketing

Did anybody ever wonder why Telefunken is now based in USA??? Why they call their mikes as the call them? Nobody would have given a shit on a XYZ M0-8/15 microphone made from whoever in USA. Give it a historically meaningfull name and everybody cares. And so is Neumann doing. Plain and simple marketing.

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Re: Neumann TLM 67...why? [message #340028 is a reply to message #340024 ]

Fri, 09 May 2008 11:14

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jensenmann wrote on Fri, 09 May 2008 08:55

Did anybody ever wonder why Telefunken is now based in USA???

Telefunken is NOT based in the USA. Telefunken USA has nothing to do with the original Telefunken. The original Telefunken does not exist anymore. Chrysler Daimler, who owns Telefunken, let the rights to the name in North America lapse, and Toni jumped on it. Kind of industrious on his part, if you ask me.

But you are right about the historical references in terms of bullshit marketing. It's genius from a business standpoint. However, I think it IS fairly safe to assume the mic will sound like crap compared to the original. I have yet to hear a transformerless PCB mic that thought sounded warm, or had any personality.

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Re: Neumann TLM 67...why? [message #340036 is a reply to message #340024 ]

Fri, 09 May 2008 11:24

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jensenmann wrote on Fri, 09 May 2008 10:55

Nobody has heard this mike but everybody's already throwing shit on it? What attitude is this? This really makes me wonder.

Regarding the initial question" TLM67....why?":

Marketing

Did anybody ever wonder why Telefunken is now based in USA??? Why they call their mikes as the call them? Nobody would have given a shit on a XYZ M0-8/15 microphone made from whoever in USA. Give it a historically meaningfull name and everybody cares. And so is Neumann doing. Plain and simple marketing.

The Tele USA gets the same criticism for the same type of "marketing" and they are "trying" to repro the actual mic.

End of day, It is nearly impossible that the new neumann will be great. Remember they tout it to sound like a 67...

I know it seems harsh to call it DOA but come on we've all heard lots of these things right?

Will it be closer to the other TLM's Or the Vintage U67...

Like I wrote earlier if it sounds good it will be an accident.

Accidents can happen.

I predict it will be LAME.

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Fri, 09 May 2008 11:24

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J.J. Blair wrote on Fri, 09 May 2008 18:14

Telefunken is NOT based in the USA. Telefunken USA has nothing to do with the original Telefunken. The original Telefunken does not exist anymore. Chrysler Daimler, who owns Telefunken, let the rights to the name in North America lapse, and Toni jumped on it. Kind of industrious on his part, if you ask me.

You see: Marketing, that?s what I wanted to say.

Still I would not judge or write something bad about it before I have heard the mike. Who knows, maybe we will all be buying this mike for some reason. You never know
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Fri, 09 May 2008 11:30

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Fri, 09 May 2008 11:46

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I use the TLM193 a lot and like it. I'll wait to hear the TLM67 before I criticize it.

There's evidently a market for the new breed of Neumanns and Telefunkens even though they don't sound like the vintage models. I really doubt everyone at Neumann is a complete idiot.

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Fri, 09 May 2008 13:17

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I think everyone here who is expecting a less than stellar microphone would be thrilled to be wrong about this.

I know I would be.

But it is fairly easy to predict what will happen when everyone hears this.

Those who have and/or use a lot of great vintage microphones will not be amused.

We shall see.

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Fri, 09 May 2008 16:05

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Fri, 09 May 2008 16:22

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TLM 49 owner here. I'll tell you a story. Every time I visit my daughter in New York...did I mention she attends Columbia University....I take a taxi to B & H at 420 Ninth Avenue. One this one occasion I was in the market for a new mic for the studio. They have this neat Microphone and preamp isolation room with all available mics lined up in a row with headphones so you can select any combination of preamp and microphone. I did my thing and after listening to several low end and high end mics, I came to this one and it was an "ah-haaa!" moment for me. I told the salesperson to wrap this one up immediately. I was so excited. I hurried to the cashier and gave them my debt card only to find out they wouldn't accept it because the secret 3 digit code number on the back could not be read because I had used the damn thing so much. I was pissed. I ended up buying the mic from Sweetwater who matched their price of $1278, I believe it was. I wish I hadn't waited so long to buy a new mic. Vocals sound so much nicer with that thing.

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Fri, 09 May 2008 16:31

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rankus wrote on Thu, 08 May 2008 22:08

Barry Hufker wrote on Thu, 08 May 2008 13:21

What are "TNC" mics?

Hey Barry, this is the brand name of the mics (and other gear) that Terry and Chance are having made up in China for the big group buy... (Terry "N" Chance)

When is said big group buy and which type of mic is it this time and is it still possible to get in on it?

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Fri, 09 May 2008 16:31

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It's not a bad mic for $1,200. But there are better, IMHO. The discontinued Langevin CR3A beats it on every source, and that used to cost $400 out the door.

Did you try the Brauner's while you were listening to other mics? My experience ith the Phantom was that it was rich sounding. Definitely not how I would describe the TLM49.

I'd be shocked if the mic cost them more than $400 to manufacture.

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Fri, 09 May 2008 16:34

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compasspnt wrote on Fri, 09 May 2008 11:17

I think everyone here who is expecting a less than stellar microphone would be thrilled to be wrong about this.

I know I would be.

But it is fairly easy to predict what will happen when everyone hears this.

Those who have and/or use a lot of great vintage microphones will not be amused.

We shall see.

Funny you say that. You know that one company that makes the mics that look exactly like the super expensive vintage ones? they have a quote on their ads and their site from a guy who owns a ton of those mics, where he says, "It's everything I hoped it would be." Apparently said company is too obtuse to understand what I would bet money on what really means: "I'm glad they are not as good as the real ones that I own."

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