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| Re: Neumann TLM 67...why? [message #340246 is a reply to message #340236 ] |
Sat, 10 May 2008 11:45   |
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nob turner
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| studio1117 wrote on Sat, 10 May 2008 08:52 |
TLM49 is a great mic, I'll bet the TLM67 will be great. Take your choice. Perhaps a 50 some year old mic with a changed element and a bad tube is your idea of a classic. No thanks
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Aaron--you sound like a dealer.
Not all old mics have bad tubes and a replacement capsule. Only those which haven't been well maintained.
There was a thread here last week asking if your old gear owns you. It can, in the sense that it requires more frequent maintenance than new stuff. But there is a reason that people continue to maintain 47's and 49's and C12's. And it isn't just to look cool to clients--because the maintenance load can be high for these mics. I know from personal experience.
It doesn't therefore follow that all new mics suck, regardless of the manufacturer. I have a TLM 193 that gets frequent use on female vocals, because it is the right mic for those singers. I suspect a good M49 would be even better, but I can't afford every mic I'd like to have.
Personally, I think that dogmatism at either extreme on this subject is foolishly close-minded. Remember the name of this forum.
Why do you think they call it the control room?
www.garymankin.com
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| Re: Neumann TLM 67...why? [message #340285 is a reply to message #339530 ] |
Sat, 10 May 2008 17:39 |
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Don't assume that because a signature says something that people will read it.
I, and I'm sure many others, turn off the sig feature. I hate all that junk clogging up the posts.
Makes this place look too much like the Internet.
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| Re: Neumann TLM 67...why? [message #340303 is a reply to message #340285 ] |
Sat, 10 May 2008 19:38 |
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nob turner
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one of the problems with posts is how irony doesn't come through (smilies notwithstanding). of COURSE aaron is a dealer... that was my point exactly.
Why do you think they call it the control room?
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| Re: Neumann TLM 67...why? [message #340320 is a reply to message #340219 ] |
Sat, 10 May 2008 20:51 |
 maarvold
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Jay,
Check your PM's
Michael Aarvold
Audio Engineer
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| Re: Neumann TLM 67...why? [message #340360 is a reply to message #340250 ] |
Sun, 11 May 2008 06:18 |
jensenmann
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| tom eaton wrote on Sat, 10 May 2008 19:20 |
You're one to talk.
Neumann needs to make a mic that can stand on its own merits and not need a historical model number to make us think that it's special.
I like the TLM170, though. Most extended clean bottom end of any mic I own.
-tom
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In fact Neumann makes some mics that stand out. But these are specialist mikes which not necessarily find their way into Rock?n?Roll recording studios. Lets name them GFM132, KMS104 and the wireless version, their shotgun mikes behave very good and still they make the USM69.
Engineering spirit is pretty much about getting the (known) parameters as good as possible. Unfortunately this has nothing to do with "sound" (whatever it is). Neuman has surely to be seen in this context. Parameters are something you can reliably work on and measure. Sound is subjective. There?s no objective "sound"-measurementtool which says: now it sounds better. But you can tweak the equivalent noise level, distortion,....
I know a lot of people who use and like the newer Neumanns. Interestingly all of them are the type of guys who want the mike to have no sound. Yes, those people exist. Obviously quite a bunch of them. These are the ones Neumann makes their new mikes for.
What makes me wonder in some of your posts is how absolute your commets are. Statements like "this mike sucks bigtime and has no use at all" (nobody said this in these words but it?s what I understand from reading between the lines) are too extreme. I have a load of shitty mikes here and I always find a use for each of them where it shines. If you can?t find a use for any of these lousy Neumanns so what?s wrong? Of course you don?t have to use them, you don?t even have to buy them. But then in my understanding it?s not necessarily that it?s a bad mike but more it is that the application was not the right one because a different mike worked better. Another person might have found a use because it fitted into his asthetics.
Jens
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