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KM84 variant [message #336622]

Fri, 25 April 2008 17:17

ricknroll
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This seller is asking for too much money, in my opinion, but interesting nonetheless:

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This is a very rare Telefunken M280 stereo condenser microphone set. These mics were manufactured by Neumann and they are identical to KM84. They were released in 1966 and these early versions have a small Tuchel connector.

The mic pair comes with an original Neumann double mic holder and an unbranded box.

Feel free to ask for accessorries like mic cable and phantom power supply.

The M280 N version has a cardioid pattern. Some people say these are the very best overhead mics. They sound great on accoustic instruments too.

It`s very hard to find a matched pair in mint condition nowadays and the Teklefunken version is even more valuable the then Neumann KM84.

The mics sond absolutely great without any noise. The capsules seems to be in very good condition.

SERIAL NUMBERS 15094 & 15097 ![/i]

There are other pictures on the auction, but I just picked one to post here.

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Re: KM84 variant [message #336623 is a reply to message #336622 ]

Fri, 25 April 2008 17:22

Steve Hudson
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Nice collectors' pieces but I too wondered if the only difference between these and a Neumann KM84 is the grille behind the capsule.

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Re: KM84 variant [message #336624 is a reply to message #336623 ]

Fri, 25 April 2008 17:25

ricknroll
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I've got a pair, and one other difference is they lack the -10dB pad that KM84s have. As far as I know, the connectors, lack of a pad, and the grilles are the only differences between the M280N and the KM84.

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Re: KM84 variant [message #336680 is a reply to message #336624 ]

Fri, 25 April 2008 21:39

Klaus Heyne
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Correct. No other differences.

Klaus Heyne
German Masterworks
www.GermanMasterworks.com

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Re: KM84 variant [message #336907 is a reply to message #336622 ]

Sat, 26 April 2008 19:27

morphtec
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Howdy,
I own one of these. I always thought they where KM85 without the pad.
Best,
J. Wildling

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Re: KM84 variant [message #336938 is a reply to message #336907 ]

Sat, 26 April 2008 22:36

Klaus Heyne
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According to Neumann, the M280 only came in two versions:
M280 N (cardioid = KM84) and M280 K (omni = KM83)

Klaus Heyne
German Masterworks
www.GermanMasterworks.com

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Re: KM84 variant [message #336984 is a reply to message #336938 ]

Sun, 27 April 2008 07:48

morphtec
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Ah, thanks Klaus!
But the KM85 is cardioid too. Did they say that its a relabeled KM84, or did they just say "Cardioid"?
Best,
J. Wildling

Klaus Heyne wrote on Sun, 27 April 2008 05:36

According to Neumann, the M280 only came in two versions:
M280 N (cardioid = KM84) and M280 K (omni = KM83)

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Re: KM84 variant [message #337345 is a reply to message #336984 ]

Mon, 28 April 2008 14:13

Klaus Heyne
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Neumann's records do not show that a low-cut version of the M280 was ever available as a stock item.
But someone could of course have at any time exchanged the capsule head with a KM85 capsule head. If you think that's what you've got, it's fairly easy to identify.

Klaus Heyne
German Masterworks
www.GermanMasterworks.com

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Re: KM84 variant [message #337998 is a reply to message #337345 ]

Wed, 30 April 2008 16:52

morphtec
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I never cared whether it's a 85 or 84, because I like it like it is. But someone once told me it was an 85 ... so I wasn't sure.

Thanks for spreading your knowledge!
best,
J. Wildling

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