| His New Studio Build (Empire) [message #338028] |
Wed, 30 April 2008 18:17  |
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 patrick_wilson
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Didn't want to threadjack but it's related.
| kats wrote on Wed, 30 April 2008 09:02 |
On another note, everytime I walk up the marble staircase marveling at the quality of workmanship surrounding me, it saddens me to think how far we've dropped our expectations in architecture and workmanship.
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Wow, I think about that all the time. Technology has come so far in many ways but gets spread pretty thin. Is it really that hard for our institutions to build lasting architecture?
The houses in Portland where I used to live were so overbuilt and now I get 2x4 and drywall. The cranks that came in small block Chevy's were forged until they realized they could make them cast. I think 1967 was just about the tipping point for so many things I'm interested in. My Chevelle has a nearly 100% metal interior and the next year they got plasticky.
I was reading somewhere that much of the practical technology that landed us on the moon would have to be rediscovered because we lost it already. I was going to buy a particular tube mixer from the 50's because a friend of mine said nobody knows how to wind those particular transformers anymore and they sound like nothing else.
Tried to find an anagram for Empire but the best one is Pee Rim and I'm not sure how that's going to go over with the Historical Society. Congratulations on such a great building!
We done already flew up in there!
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| Re: His New Studio Build (Empire) [message #338157 is a reply to message #338067 ] |
Thu, 01 May 2008 09:07  |
kats
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| Hallams wrote on Thu, 01 May 2008 03:14 |
The other side of the coin is with population growth etc we are running out of non renewable recources. I lile things well done etc but am glad we are using fast growth pine in housing frames here instead of old growth hard wood etc.
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I have to disagree with this. The problem with this recycle society we live in is that we are making the same purchases over and over and over. If we bought quality from the start (IE life time purchases) we would use less resources.
The solution isn't blue box recycling bins, we're just simply throwing too much 'stuff' in the garbage.
My house was built in 1948 (Fur studs btw) and my wife was complaining why there isn't alot of storage space (closets etc). It struck me that it is easy to judge a generation by something as simple as this. Why is there not enough storage space? Well people probably didn't need it. So why do we need it now?
Tony Katsabanis
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| Re: His New Studio Build (Empire) [message #338173 is a reply to message #338028 ] |
Thu, 01 May 2008 09:58 |
marcel
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| patrick_wilson wrote on Wed, 30 April 2008 16:17 |
Is it really that hard for our institutions to build lasting architecture?
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I don't think it's a question of 'hard', but I do think there are plenty of reasons why it happens less...
1. At some point everyone realized that designed redundancy was necessary for the industrial revolution to continue. The digital revolution has raised this perception to even higher levels.
2. Architecture, like just about everything else, has become very cost-driven. People don't build building to leave a lasting monument today, they build buildings to make money.
3. Most people are not very aware of their connection to architecture and the impact it has on their life on a daily basis. We have, in general, lost our sense of awe at the power of human achievement.
It's also worth mentioning that the old architecture that survives today, like the old guitars and the old cars, has survived at least in part because it retained its 'value' while the structures around it did not. Plenty of things built in the early part of last century have been torn down, we don't talk much about them. Who knows what of today's architecture will be standing in 100 years...
Rem Koolhaus' Seattle Public Library? Thoroughly modern design, with modern materials, but very functional, architecturally inspiring, and apparently durable. May stand the test of time...
It still happens.
Sorry for raising the probability of this thread being moved to the Saloon even higher than it already was...
Best, Marcel
Best, Marcel
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| Re: His New Studio Build (Empire) [message #338175 is a reply to message #338028 ] |
Thu, 01 May 2008 10:13 |
kats
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OPAH!
I take full responsiblity for my spelling. I'm sorry, it was a mistake and I won't do anything to correct it. Now please elect me as class teacher.
Tony Katsabanis
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| Re: His New Studio Build (Empire) [message #338191 is a reply to message #338028 ] |
Thu, 01 May 2008 11:37 |
kats
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Didn't Hugh Hefner have a coat made of fer?
Tony Katsabanis
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| Re: His New Studio Build (Empire) [message #338193 is a reply to message #338191 ] |
Thu, 01 May 2008 11:39 |
marcel
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| kats wrote on Thu, 01 May 2008 09:37 |
Didn't Hugh Hefner have a coat made of fer?
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A ferrous coat? That would be heavy...
Best, Marcel
Best, Marcel
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| Re: His New Studio Build (Empire) [message #338301 is a reply to message #338236 ] |
Thu, 01 May 2008 15:24 |
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Berolzheimer
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| Jay Kadis wrote on Thu, 01 May 2008 11:02 |
That would be me. Benadryl is the antihistamine I grew up on. (Living with a half-dozen cats seems to have reduced my susceptibility, though.)
kier.
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Nah, it's just that the toxoplasmosis has stopped you from caring.
"We have also sound-houses, where we practise and demon- strate all sounds and their generation....
Divers instruments of music likewise to you unknown, some sweeter than any you have; with bells and rings that are dainty and sweet. We represent small sounds as great and deep, likewise great sounds extenuate and sharp; we make divers tremblings and warblings of sounds, which in their original are entire. We represent and imitate all articulate sounds and letters, and the voices and notes of beasts and birds. We have certain helps which, set to the ear, do further the hearing greatly; we have also divers strange and artificial echoes, reflecting the voice many times, and, as it were, tossing it; and some that give back the voice louder than it came, some shriller and some deeper, some rendering the voice, differing in the letters or articulate sound from that they receive. We have all means to convey sounds in trunks and pipes, in strange lines and distances."--Francis Bacon, 1626
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| Re: His New Studio Build (Empire) [message #338346 is a reply to message #338028 ] |
Thu, 01 May 2008 19:07 |
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Brian Kehew
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Great architecture? Wonderful build quality and materials - sure. Just PAY FOR IT. Many people will do it for you.
Try a solid wood floor, just to start.
Or an arched ceiling.
Bay windows.
etc etc
It's insanely expensive. We all WANT nicer cars and buildings and guitars, we just don't wanna pay for them.
Relax and float downstream...
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