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I guess this begs the question Brad. How are they comparing with your loudspeakers before and after the removal of the zobel? One would think that a zobel being an LCR network...absent the L (which is effectively blocked by the internal crossover in the loudpeakers) would reek havok with the flow in the AC circuit because of inappropriate placement of said zobel.
What do the ears tell you? This is the acid test..as how circuits interact audibly is more meaningful than said therory and conjecture.
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| Re: Transparent Audio, meet Dr. Zobel of Bell Labs... [message #14105 is a reply to message #14098 ] |
Tue, 27 July 2004 16:03 |
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| bblackwood wrote on Tue, 27 July 2004 15:34 |
Lucey, if you wish to discuss the cables, you are welcome to, but to continue to post things insinuating this whole thread is an elaborate attempt to undermine your argument for cable tone is ludicrous and more than a little arrogant...
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not elaborate ... subtle
it's hardly 'my argument' ... it's many people's experience.
heck i wish i was deaf to it, at this pont.
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I state again, I started this thread as I thought it more than a little humorous (if not sad) that people will spend that much dough for a simple $3 circuit that changes the speaker, from the amp's perspective. It has nothing to do with cable 'tone, just an interesting find.
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fair enough, i'll take you at your word then.
Brian Lucey
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| Re: Transparent Audio, meet Dr. Zobel of Bell Labs... [message #14109 is a reply to message #13920 ] |
Tue, 27 July 2004 16:33 |
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Piss and moan.
This is terribly simple:
A. Brad in humour, points out a few dollars worth of parts installed in a seemingly OEM type cable with a fancy plastic cover with what is considered a very very very high profit margin...so that folks can see first hand what they are *paying for*
B. I point out problems with zobels before the crossover, could be detrimental.
C. Some technical info ensues
D. None of us have heard the damn thing but the pictures speak for themselves.
E. I see no problem, no rebuttals or no more issues needed.
F. Pictures do not lie. Someone is making a lot of money...and the merits for single directional cable with an A/C circuit (or lack of) is icing on the cake.
G. It is a good post that opens ones eyes to some of the methods manufactures are using to reel in potential customers and gain superior profit margins.
H. LOL!!!!!!
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| Re: Transparent Audio, meet Dr. Zobel of Bell Labs... [message #14135 is a reply to message #14071 ] |
Tue, 27 July 2004 19:20 |
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| lucey wrote on Tue, 27 July 2004 10:47 |
Who 'looked into it'? And how exactly did you do that?
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Uhh, I looked at his foolish, misleading claims?
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Lee is a cellist for your smart ass information, and he chose his profession, and enjoys it.
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Sounds like Lee and I have a lot in common, i'm a geetar player that also chose his profession.
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Get your facts straight, Mr. Facts and Figures.
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Apologies if I'm confusing him with some other "cable designer"
And that's Mr. Listens Critically for a Living, to you.
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His cables are also not that expensive. Not at cost.
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Yes, I'm sure his cost is like a buck per foot.
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Nor are some of the cables form Cardas.
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Cardas has a patent, you know.
DC
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