| AtT 4050 mic - versatile studio mic? [message #327924] |
Wed, 26 March 2008 15:20  |
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Is the AT 4050 extremely versatile in a studio that records mostly Vocals, Acoustic Guitar, Electric Guitar (cabs), Bass(cab), Keyboards, Drums(o/h and outside kick), Hand Drums, and occasional woodwinds? Most people say it's a natural and neutral sound on many instruments including vocals... we're looking for a swiss army mic with multi-patterns, I guess I should say could... Comments?? is there something about this mic that you don't like?
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| Re: AtT 4050 mic - versatile studio mic? [message #327930 is a reply to message #327924 ] |
Wed, 26 March 2008 15:34  |
hargerst
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If I remember correctly, the AT4050 is a small diaphragm mic (about 5/8" across) but that's the only thing I remember about it.
Harvey "Wait, I didn't say 'Rolling" yet." Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
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| Re: AtT 4050 mic - versatile studio mic? [message #327971 is a reply to message #327965 ] |
Wed, 26 March 2008 19:02 |
Bill Urick
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FWIW I understand the the 4050 was used as a lead vocal mic on the last Brad Paisley album. Mike Clink (Guns and Roses) also used it as a lead vox mic on tracks cut with Brad Cox, a new artist he's working with. I have tried one but thought it was a little bright for what I needed. Good sounding mic though.
Let's get one thing straight-I'm not an audio engineer and never said I was. I've just got some things I have to record.(IS)
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| Re: AtT 4050 mic - versatile studio mic? [message #328036 is a reply to message #327965 ] |
Wed, 26 March 2008 22:43 |
hargerst
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| tom eaton wrote on Wed, 26 March 2008 18:31 |
4050 is a 1" dual diaphragm three pattern mic
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Ok, if the AT4033 and 4050 are 1", what size are the 4047 and 4060? 2"?
Judging from their ad (and all the XLR connectors are equal size), the 4047 and 4060 look huge by comparison. I know for a fact that the 4033 is 5/8", so what's the size of the 4050?
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Harvey "Wait, I didn't say 'Rolling" yet." Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
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| Re: AtT 4050 mic - versatile studio mic? [message #328060 is a reply to message #327924 ] |
Wed, 26 March 2008 23:35 |
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Sorry, never met an AT I really really liked.
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| Re: AtT 4050 mic - versatile studio mic? [message #328091 is a reply to message #328060 ] |
Thu, 27 March 2008 00:42 |
hargerst
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| compasspnt wrote on Wed, 26 March 2008 23:35 |
Sorry, never met an AT I really really liked.
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You're not alone, Terry. Al Schmitt ain't a big fan of them either.
Harvey "Wait, I didn't say 'Rolling" yet." Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
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| Re: AtT 4050 mic - versatile studio mic? [message #328149 is a reply to message #328036 ] |
Thu, 27 March 2008 09:31 |
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Man, talkin' 'bout double talk:
"The rich, warm sound takes you back to the classic F.E.T. studio microphones. But there's nothing remotely old-fashioned about the technology behind that vintage sound."
All things to all people.
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| Re: AtT 4050 mic - versatile studio mic? [message #328358 is a reply to message #328161 ] |
Thu, 27 March 2008 18:34 |
Bill Urick
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FWIW, the 4033 and KSM32 ar both electret mics. Don't know if that has anything to do with the diaphragm size. I had some KSM32's and 27's and thought they sounded similar to but not as good as the 4033 and 4047 (respectively), so I dumped them. I like the 4047's a lot. They don't look (or sound) just like a Telefunken U47, in or out of leather, but they keep me from wanting a U87. KM86? 'nother story entirely.
What's an electret?
How do you guys feel about macaroni and cheese?
Let's get one thing straight-I'm not an audio engineer and never said I was. I've just got some things I have to record.(IS)
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| Re: AtT 4050 mic - versatile studio mic? [message #328421 is a reply to message #328370 ] |
Thu, 27 March 2008 22:27 |
Bill Urick
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| tom eaton wrote on Thu, 27 March 2008 19:54 |
An electret is simply a condenser that has a permanent charge to the backplate, rather than using phantom to provide the polarizing voltage. Electrets do need phantom to power the head amp.
Electrets or "true" condensers can have capsules of any size. Electrets used to be second class citizens in the condenser world, but at this point there are quite a few very good sounding electrets out there.
I'm not sure why you would put up a 4033 against a KSM32, or a KSM27 against a 4047. The KSM27 and 4033 are both designed as vocal mics, the KSM32 is a "flat" multipurpose instrument mic (great on snare, btw) and the 4047 is its own thing entirely. I also really like the 4047 and have had dozens of happy tracks made with KSM32s. I have pairs of both and it would not occur to me to use the 32s in place of the 4047s or vice versa.
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Just that I had a pair of each of the four mics and was doing a little pruning. A good mic should be useful in a variety of applications, as I have found both of the AT models to be. As for the comparison pairings I matched the two electrets with similar sized diaphragms and the two 1" externally polarized condensers. I really thought the sound similarities followed the capsule types to an extent. I just never found myself using the Shures for anything. Different strokes....
You didn't really address the macaroni and cheese issue, by the way. Do you prefer straight Cheddar, Velveeta or perhaps a combination of cheeses? Then of course there is the pasta to be considered.
Let's get one thing straight-I'm not an audio engineer and never said I was. I've just got some things I have to record.(IS)
Announcement: Since smilies are frowned upon by the ACS and it is difficult to detect subtle humor in their absence I will be substituting "(IS)" (implied smiley) where appropriate.
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