| Melcor Console? [message #352552] |
Fri, 27 June 2008 07:07  |
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 Silvertone
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Have any of you ever seen or worked on a Melcor console? I've never seen a complete console and most of the time only see the EQ's listed for sale.
I own a pair of mic pre's and EQ's but have never really found any others. btw these are some of my favorite sounding pre's and the EQ's are just sweet. Very Pultec like.
Larry DeVivo
Silvertone Mastering, Inc.
PO Box 4582
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
www.silvertonemastering.com
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| Re: Melcor Console? [message #352567 is a reply to message #352552 ] |
Fri, 27 June 2008 08:22  |
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Pulse Technologies and API had some sort of business co-arrangement at one time.
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| Re: Melcor Console? [message #352748 is a reply to message #352703 ] |
Sat, 28 June 2008 00:13 |
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Gold
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| Dominick wrote on Fri, 27 June 2008 19:59 |
I currently have a stereo mastering rig built for a CBS disc cutting room that uses Melcor line amps - very tasty.
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I bought the lot of the CBS DisComputers about 5 years ago. I got a rack with 4 Melcor line amps and two Neumann EE70 elliptical EQs. I also got a few of the the CBS labs answer to the Neumann Vertical Amplitude limiter. These have a Melcor output stage driving a transformer. I never got the DisComputers going but I've used the line amps in the past. I can't say I'm a big fan of the Melcor 1731. It has that API bite only more of it. I'm not getting rid of the stuff though.
Paul Gold
www.saltmastering.com
On the silk road, looking for uranium.
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| Re: Melcor Console? [message #352774 is a reply to message #352557 ] |
Sat, 28 June 2008 10:07 |
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Silvertone
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| zmix wrote on Fri, 27 June 2008 07:50 |
John,
The Melcor should be based on the 1731 opamp:
which was the precursor to the API 2520...
The electrodyne stuff was typically based on off the shelf opamps like the ľA709
Melcor used very similar transformers to the API that the company eventually became....
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API was started by Saul Walker circa 1966/67 with about 15 employees. Several of the original engineers who came to work with Saul Walker were from Melcor, a company that built modular audio products. The API 2520, one of the more famous amplifiers in the recording world, was a reworking of a Melcor design...
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Edynes were only based on the 709's for the first couple years in business. John Hall improved the op-amp design and call it the A1000 and every module there after had an L designation. 709L, 710L and with the 711 and 712 the op they were to a surface mount design, this was called the A2000 op-amp (they aren't in any cans or black boxes).
Deane Jensen I believe came up with the first 990 (2520) designed op amp when he work for Q8 and that was the AM3 op-amp. I have those in my Hollywood Bowl modules.
The build quality of these are the same as the edynes and Q8's of the time. In fact the inductor based EQ's in all the modules look exactly alike (and sound exactly alike). The mic pre's themselves almost sound identical to both the edynes and the early Q8's. Maybe a C hair more of low end and a C hair more of detail... maybe. I know I can cut tracks with any of these pre's and no one would be able to tell the difference.
The Melcors sound similar to the API in the mids and top but the bottom sounds more like a Neve. Very big, very full with a lot of low end information captured.Just like the early Q8's and Edynes.
It makes since that all this stuff would be built similarly and would sound similar. After all the designers of the time would jump from company to company bring their designs with them. Also the parts suppliers were pretty much all the same.
I have solid state Pultecs with both API 2520 op-amps in them and Electrokinetix op-amps in them... they sound the same.
All the early AES journals I have show all the Melcor modular products. I always heard a few consoles were built but I know of none now nor have I ever seen one in the past 30 years I've been in the business. I was just wondering if anyone else had?
Isn't she a beauty!!!
Larry DeVivo
Silvertone Mastering, Inc.
PO Box 4582
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
www.silvertonemastering.com
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| Re: Melcor Console? [message #352814 is a reply to message #352775 ] |
Sat, 28 June 2008 14:23 |
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| Silvertone wrote on Sat, 28 June 2008 11:17 |
[Funny as I bet I could get you in the room and run though all these different modules and you wouldn't be able to say which had the 1731 in it.
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I don't think I'd take that bet unless I could hit them hard or put bunch of them in series.
Paul Gold
www.saltmastering.com
On the silk road, looking for uranium.
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| Re: Melcor Console? [message #353051 is a reply to message #352948 ] |
Sun, 29 June 2008 21:38 |
jstuart
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I have 4 melchor gme 20 eq's. They just kill on kick and bass...they've been my go to eq's for years in those departments.
I didn't even know they made other pieces.... I've searched the net for ages looking for info.... any links or copies of lit? ( I have the eq's spec sheet, if anyone needs a copy)
j
Wiggling air molecules for a multitude of reasons, and in a variety of ways, for well over 30 years.
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