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Rhodes blues [message #378480]

Mon, 13 October 2008 17:54

C.Cash
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Registered: September 2007
Location: Bahamas

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I tracked my Rhodes yesterday and everything was lovely and she sounded great.
I went to track this afternoon and I am only getting sound from the first 5 keys??? Nothing on the others! Opened her up and had a look see and everything looks fine.
Any ideas? Its a 79 Mark 1 stage.

Thanks.

" Yellow is the new Red " T.Manning

http://www.myspace.com/threepieces

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Re: Rhodes blues [message #378500 is a reply to message #378480 ]

Mon, 13 October 2008 20:08

Bill_Urick
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Registered: March 2005
Location: Atlanta

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Check the wiring between the pickups.

uhhh...

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Re: Rhodes blues [message #378536 is a reply to message #378500 ]

Tue, 14 October 2008 05:48

Tomas Danko
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

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Bill_Urick wrote on Tue, 14 October 2008 02:08

Check the wiring between the pickups.

Bill is right. The coils in each pickup are wired in series towards the output. If the thin wire breaks somewhere, the keys to the right of the break won't work.

"T(Z)= (n1+n2*Z^-1+n2*Z^-2)/(1+d1*z^-1+d2*z^-2)" - Mr. Dan Lavry
"Shaw baa laa raaw, sidle' yaa doot in dee splaa" . Mr Shooby Taylor

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Re: Rhodes blues [message #378544 is a reply to message #378536 ]

Tue, 14 October 2008 06:49

C.Cash
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Thanks, I looked but the light in the room is terrible. When I get home tonight I willlook again with propper lighting.

Thanks again,

Clifford.

" Yellow is the new Red " T.Manning

http://www.myspace.com/threepieces

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Re: Rhodes blues [message #378546 is a reply to message #378544 ]

Tue, 14 October 2008 07:00

Tomas Danko
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C.Cash wrote on Tue, 14 October 2008 12:49

Thanks, I looked but the light in the room is terrible. When I get home tonight I willlook again with propper lighting.

Thanks again,

Clifford.

You will probably need a small torch light or something regardless, because you need to stand and bend over the instrument with your head close to the area. Also, the wire is very thin.

"T(Z)= (n1+n2*Z^-1+n2*Z^-2)/(1+d1*z^-1+d2*z^-2)" - Mr. Dan Lavry
"Shaw baa laa raaw, sidle' yaa doot in dee splaa" . Mr Shooby Taylor

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Re: Rhodes blues [message #378553 is a reply to message #378480 ]

Tue, 14 October 2008 07:32

OOF!
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Registered: June 2004

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the versabrite pelican is great for these kinds of jobs. -- small light that straps on to your head. goes where your eyes do. Good luck with the Rhodes.
david

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Re: Rhodes blues [message #378795 is a reply to message #378553 ]

Tue, 14 October 2008 22:38

Bill_Urick
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Location: Atlanta

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Be sure not to strap a real pelican to your head.
They'll peck your eyes out and poo in your hair.
And their breath smells of fish.

uhhh...

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Re: Rhodes blues [message #378797 is a reply to message #378480 ]

Tue, 14 October 2008 22:51

tom eaton
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Newburyport, MA

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Oh, man. You only have to do that once. What a mess.

thomas eaton recording
acoustic music guy
http://www.thomaseaton.com

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Re: Rhodes blues [message #378850 is a reply to message #378797 ]

Wed, 15 October 2008 07:57

C.Cash
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Registered: September 2007
Location: Bahamas

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Problem solved!

I got a table lamp with a 100w bulb and a magnifying glass, the wires are really small. After looking closely at the pickup where the signal stopped I saw that all the connecting wires were intact and looked good. Then I noticed what looked like a small piece of reddish/orange thread sticking up between the pickup mount and laying on the opposite mount. Bingo! A wire from the pickup itself had come unwound and was grounding out on the other mount. As soon as I moved it the Rhodes was fine. Unfortunately, in all my digging around and lifting the harp to look underneath, she is now out of tune.Should I attempt to tune it myself? I have instructions and it does not seem too difficult as long as I can find a proper tuner.

Thanks.

" Yellow is the new Red " T.Manning

http://www.myspace.com/threepieces

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Re: Rhodes blues [message #378995 is a reply to message #378850 ]

Wed, 15 October 2008 15:42

Tomas Danko
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Location: Stockholm, Sweden

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As an owner of a Rhodes you should invest the time to learn how to tune it, it will pay off in a big way over time. Just don't rush things, and prepare to spend half a day just figuring things out without stressing.

It can be a lot of fun, actually. I used to be a Rhodes technician for a lot of bands here in Stockholm, years ago. Every Rhodes has a unique personality, and it is a pleasure to get to know it and coax the best out of it.

Enjoy! Smile

"T(Z)= (n1+n2*Z^-1+n2*Z^-2)/(1+d1*z^-1+d2*z^-2)" - Mr. Dan Lavry
"Shaw baa laa raaw, sidle' yaa doot in dee splaa" . Mr Shooby Taylor

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Re: Rhodes blues [message #379145 is a reply to message #378995 ]

Thu, 16 October 2008 08:27

C.Cash
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Registered: September 2007
Location: Bahamas

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mmmm pretty;

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9762/58371470yq8.jpg

I have a Piano tuner coming in tonight, I would love to learn how to tune it but I need it for Sunday, however I will watch very closely.

Thanks.

" Yellow is the new Red " T.Manning

http://www.myspace.com/threepieces

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Re: Rhodes blues [message #379577 is a reply to message #378480 ]

Fri, 17 October 2008 20:13

JimmyJ
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Registered: December 2004
Location: LA, CA, USA

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hmmm, rhodes...

Many years ago I attended a maintenance clinic presented by Harold Rhodes. Of course I can't remember anything about it ... but I do have a tip if you need to do some touch-up tuning...

For a fine adjustment just pull up a bit on the entire tine assembly (it's spring mounted) and then twist the spring with thumb and forefinger while moving it towards the end (for flatter) of towards the keyboard (for sharper). I found this much easier than trying to push the spring along with a screwdriver or other tool...

Jimmy J

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