| Vintage Synths. [message #227480] |
Tue, 06 March 2007 17:52  |
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| Best old synths[ 22 vote(s) ] |
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| 1. | Roland Jupiter 8 |  2 / 9% | | 2. | Moog MiniMoog | 0 / 0% | | 3. | Yamaha CS-80 | 3 / 14% | | 4. | Elka Synthex | 1 / 5% | | 5. | Moog Polymoog | 0 / 0% | | 6. | Sequential Circuits Prophet 5 | 4 / 18% | | 7. | Roland SH-2 | 0 / 0% | | 8. | Roland TB-303 | 0 / 0% | | 9. | Korg Polysix | 0 / 0% | | 10. | Korg Monopoly | 1 / 5% | | 11. | Korg MS-20 | 0 / 0% | | 12. | Oberheim OBXA | 1 / 5% | | 13. | Oberheim OB-8 | 0 / 0% | | 14. | Oberheim Xpander/ Matrix 12 | 1 / 5% | | 15. | Sequential Circuits Prophet VS | 0 / 0% | | 16. | Sequential Circuits Pro One | 0 / 0% | | 17. | Roland Juno 60 | 2 / 9% | | 18. | Roland Juno 106 | 1 / 5% | | 19. | Roland SH-101 | 0 / 0% | | 20. | Moog Memorymoog | 2 / 9% | | 21. | ARP 2500 | 0 / 0% | | 22. | Arp 2600 | 4 / 18% | | 23. | EMS synthi A | 0 / 0% |
Ok, please vote and explain why. I'd love to hear opinions from some pros out there..
Right now, i find modern synths to suck it hard. I mean i love the virus ti at the store, and when i play it alone, i go wow. but when i put it in a mix. hell no, it don't go. especially with my other analogs in the mix, it just sounds distant, and lacking presence in a bad way.
My analogs sit in the mix with no trouble at all. up front, and punchy and cutting. Just how i like it. I have to fight with newer digital synths to get them to shine in the mix. it's so annoying. i hate it.
what i notice more than anything, older analogs have this shimmer to them, in the high frequencies, and when you play an older analog up high on the keyboard the sound still holds up, get bright and cutting. On newer virtual synths the sound gets dull as you play up on the keyboard, dull and distant and less volume in a really bad way. I hate it. and on bass and lower end sounds, the same thing happens.
im sick of it. someone needs to start to make kick ass modern analog poly synths that have good tone IE not the a6, se1, omega 8, and sunsyn all of which i think have horrid tone....
Would any one else care to comment? please do. i hope i am not the only one who feels this way.
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| Re: Vintage Synths. [message #227492 is a reply to message #227480 ] |
Tue, 06 March 2007 18:52  |
 kitchener
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Don't forget the Roland Sh-101...I still have my blue one from the 80's. It's a little noisy but still works.
"...anything more than 4 strings on a bass guitar is an act against nature."
W. Wittman - 2007
jake smith
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| Re: Vintage Synths. [message #227552 is a reply to message #227480 ] |
Tue, 06 March 2007 22:20 |
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The Memorymoog, whilst a real beast (tuning esp) combines the best of all RM did polyphonically. I retrofitted mine with midi, and it smokes anything else.
Edit postscript: I also have a Minimoog, and occasionally use it for mono lines...and a Source..and many of the other ones mentioned...the rest, I've used, a lot.
I STILL like the Memorymoog over everything else, if I had to choose just one to keep. It's just that special. But each has its own sound, of course, and sometimes that's what you want.
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| Re: Vintage Synths. [message #227563 is a reply to message #227480 ] |
Tue, 06 March 2007 22:49 |
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Brian Kehew
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Totally disagree on much of your assumptrions, including the Memorymoog fans. I remember when it came out - everyone felt it didn't have that Moog sound - it was far from "six Minimoogs in a box" as they claimed. The clarity and punch of the older ones. Same for the Polymoog. But both found a set of sounds that worked for them and got a following. Modular synths KILL all the synths you listed - generally any cleaner signal path sounds better.
I've owned almost EVERY old synth made at some time, and used the rest. I'd have to say that to even include synths with presets is a WHOLE nother less-good-sounding category. Jupiter 8/6, Synthex, Juno, PPG, Memorymoog, etc. ALL pale in comparison to a non-prest synth like the CS80s and 60s, even the Polymoog (which does not have the balls of some monos). Nothing on the list can do what a Polymoog does - but it ould be far too limited for most people. Same for a Hammond organ!
I have heard to Omega 8 sound totally solid, but it's too limited for me with that price. The old EMS Synthi doesn't do some sounds well, others it excels. Minimoog is totally limited, but sounds great. Older ones have clarity, later ones have thickness and lushness.
Relax and float downstream...
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| Re: Vintage Synths. [message #227729 is a reply to message #227480 ] |
Wed, 07 March 2007 13:30 |
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Fig
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Yeah,
Tough call. Best for what? is a good question.
I guess if I could only have one monosynth it would be an Oberheim SEM.
If it needed memories - the OB-1.
Don't get me wrong, I love my MiniMoog and all the pieces from the MS-series from Korg - but the multimode (HP, LP, BP and notch) filter of the SEM is just too cool.
If polyphony was the requirement - I'd choose OB-8.
If ease-of-operation was the requirement - Juno 60.
If strings were the requirement - I still am fond of the Korg Lambda (ES-50).
If MIDI was the requirement...
See, there is no one answer.
Hex, speaking of modern synths - you might check out the ASB series from Creamware. I got their MiniMax and like it quite a bit. They have one that is in the ARP vein, the SCI vein and the Moog vein. Recommended.
Osci-later,
Fig
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| Re: Vintage Synths. [message #227730 is a reply to message #227480 ] |
Wed, 07 March 2007 13:34 |
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Brian Kehew
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The CS80 IS your polyphonic monster. Nothing on that list of polys compares to it.
But you better have lots of cash, strength, space, tech help and time. And none of those polys does much at all - NONE. Compared to a modular synth, or the A6 (which is analog, does a zillion times more, has MIDI, presets and may sound only 90% as good as most listed there).
Relax and float downstream...
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| Re: Vintage Synths. [message #227731 is a reply to message #227480 ] |
Wed, 07 March 2007 13:35 |
PookyNMR
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For some reason I've always loved the Oberhiem stuff....
Nathan Rousu
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