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| Topic: awesome live room diffusion! |
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| awesome live room diffusion! [message #321408] |
Tue, 04 March 2008 13:33 |
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 craig boychuk
Messages: 333
Registered: April 2004
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba |
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Hi folks
Just wanted to share a happy acoustics momement...
Last weekend I recorded a great band in my rehearsal space. This was a live recording with everyone in one room, no isolation.
I have always enjoyed playing music there - everything always sounds really nice - lively, but very clear.
After recording in the space I realized just how amazing it really is!!!
It's probably about 800 - 900 square feet, wood floor & walls, small semi-absorptive ceiling tiles - not sure what they're made of.
The real kicker is the walls... they have these wide boards spaced about 2 inches apart that stick out from the wall. This creates 2" wide x 1" deep gaps that run floor to ceiling at about 6" intervals. The boards have some sort of finish on them, so they're probably a little more reflective than plain wood.
I guess the gaps diffuse the sound around the whole periphery of the space, and the semi reflective surface of the boards helps the treble range. Ceiling tiles help control reflections from the floor. It makes for a very lively yet crisp controlled sound.
An interesting way to approach diffusion in a room, perhaps! I like the way it sounds in there so much I may try the technique when I construct my own room!!
You can see part of the wall in this pic...
I'm sure acoustic treatment wasn't intent with the walls, as it's just an old warehouse... but it sure sounds nice!!
-craig
Capture the pasture rapture.
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| Topic: Need Help Fast, Floating Wall |
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| Need Help Fast, Floating Wall [message #251582] |
Wed, 13 June 2007 19:34 |
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bigaudioblowhard
Messages: 809
Registered: February 2005
Location: Los Angeles |
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My friend has a contractor ready to go ahead and build an extra wall between two studios. Existing wall is filled with sand, will be covered with 3 pound insulation, I think.
The floor is somehow seperated (floated). Then there'll be about a 6 inch gap between there and the new wall.
Question? What material should he use around the studs of the new wall (angled 10 degrees to a point in the middle of the room V shaped). I've heard some kind of neoprene? Is this available at Home Depot (seriously)?
Sorry for the panic but this contractor wants to build tomorrow, and theres a session booked next week.
Thanks in advance.
Bab
mark@littleredbookmastering.com
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| Topic: A couple tidbits about soundproofing |
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| A couple tidbits about soundproofing [message #202946] |
Fri, 01 December 2006 17:25 |
PaulyD
Messages: 621
Registered: August 2004
Location: Northern California |
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I've been doing some Googling about soundproofing and wound up buying some stuff to treat doors from www.soundproofing.org. They're really a ".com" operation but there's some interesting stuff on their web site. Notably, they list one possible window treatment as "Add clear acoustical sound dampening plastic film to the window panes." I called them and spoke to one of their technicians about this. He explained this was not yet available as it is a new product about to hit the market. I realize something like this isn't going to be like adding a vinyl soundproof window, but if it's reasonably priced, easily applied, unobtrusive, and offers any level of noticeable difference in sound leakage, that would be great. Does anyone here know anything about this? I'm really interested.
The same technician also explained that mass loaded vinyl with foam backing can be painted with water based latex paint. I assume this can be done without significantly affecting its sound dampening properties? This also would be great. I'm no interior decorator, but even I can see black foam clashing with a lot of decor. 
Paul
Sceptre - Katie Jane
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| Topic: General opinions re those "foam products"...... |
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| General opinions re those "foam products"...... [message #202773] |
Fri, 01 December 2006 06:15 |
Bill Urick
Messages: 498
Registered: March 2005
Location: Atlanta |
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Not to name any names, there are a number of companies making these products, but are there any of the pre-fab acoustical foam products or other heavily marketed items (diffusers for example) that are known to be effective?
Let's get one thing straight-I'm not an audio engineer and never said I was. I've just got some things I have to record.(IS)
Announcement: Since smilies are frowned upon by the ACS and it is difficult to detect subtle humor in their absence I will be substituting "(IS)" (implied smiley) where appropriate.
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| Topic: Spoox Audio Magazine - strange sounds |
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| Spoox Audio Magazine - strange sounds [message #192076] |
Thu, 12 October 2006 01:00 |
pietro79
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Registered: October 2006
Location: Vancouver |
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Hello
I hope this is the correct place to put this. I thought this could be of interest to other people who like listening to sounds...so acoustics is the closest thing out of all these forums..
A friend and I have started up a non-profit audio magazine called Spoox.
Spoox wants to serve as an outlet for audio that's too strange to be published otherwise.
The only criteria for submissions is that it's strange and it's audio. Found audio, stories, interviews, biology recordings, even music... any kind of audio, but it must be unfamiliar--cause one's ears to perk up with curiousity, and make one's gut cringe. I'm sure you guys have come across weird sounds when recording, like I have. That strange sound your dog makes when he/she yawns, or document the sound of the mice in your walls.
Issue one is out now and takes the shape of a CD with booklet. Future issues may be in different formats.
Our website:
http://spooxmagazine.org
You can hear a medley on our myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/spooxmzine
I only charge for materials, and shipping where applicable, because I'm excited to get this out there. All prices are in Canadian dollars:
Spoox is selling for $3 through me directly.
$5 total to ship within Canada.
$7 total to ship to the US.
$10 total to ship elsewhere.
Redcat Records (http://www.redcat.ca) and Blim (http://www.blim.ca) here in Vancouver, BC are selling them, and they've marked them up about a couple bucks.
And contributors get a free copy, of course! So contribute!
Sincerely,
Pietro
pietro79@hotmail.com
http://pipposound.com
http://spooxmagazine.org
http://normasite.com
http://theyshoothorses.org
http://geocities.com/pietrosammarco
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| Topic: Inexpensive Vocal Treatment Needed |
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| Inexpensive Vocal Treatment Needed [message #182930] |
Thu, 31 August 2006 21:22 |
bilco
Messages: 94
Registered: January 2005
Location: Austin,Texas |
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I am recording and mixing in an 11'X 11' spare bedroom with an 8' ceiling and a carpeted floor. The room is not treated at all. I am recording vocals with an SM57 into an RNP and acoustic guitar into an SM81 into the RNP. The RNP goes directly into a Digi001 and PTLE. When I have the money I will get some 703 for bass traps and more 703 and/or foam for wall treatment.
For now I am looking for an inexpensive solution to isolate the vocal and guitar (usually overdubbed separately from each other) from these 2 problems:
Problems
Mac G4 fan noise
Flutter echo
Possible Solutions:
I have read about some inexpensive treatments out there and am wondering which of these you think might be effective for the short term.
* Vocal Booth built with PVC pipe and moving blankets
* 4 used 6' X 5' temporary room dividers on feet positioned in a square (I think these have 703 inside of them)
* Build a box lined with foam that would mount on the mic stand that the vocal mic would sit inside of. Reflections from the rear and sides would be blocked.
* Move the Mac into the closet and run the cords under the door. This doesn't help the flutter echo though.
* Quilts on the walls. I know this does nothing for bass frequencies.
Any advice would be appreciated. I just sent my son back to college, so studio $ are pretty slim right now.
Thanks,
bilco
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