| what exactly are we mixers giving you MEs? [message #174702] |
Fri, 28 July 2006 15:31  |
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J.J. Blair Messages: 12680 Registered: May 2004 Location: by the sea & sand |
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Saw this on somebody else's master channel for an ITB mix. Just had to take a pic and share. I don't know how it sounded, but I'm wondering if there's any room left for you guys to compress after all this.
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| Re: what exactly are us mixers giving you MEs? [message #174744 is a reply to message #174731 ] |
Fri, 28 July 2006 17:22   |
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nothing wrong with those plug-ins, but it appears that the mixer has has shat all over his mix.
jeff dinces
cerberus audio
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| Re: what exactly are us mixers giving you MEs? [message #174755 is a reply to message #174702 ] |
Fri, 28 July 2006 18:24   |
Masterer Messages: 163 Registered: June 2006 Location: NYC |
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Oh, I'm sure there is plenty of room for compression, and EQ. It's probably very dynamic. No mixer would ever send a mix to mastering with the shit all smashed out of it.
Chris Athens
I believe your record has reached it's "loudness potential"
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| Re: what exactly are us mixers giving you MEs? [message #174760 is a reply to message #174702 ] |
Fri, 28 July 2006 19:11   |
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Chris Cavell Messages: 202 Registered: September 2004 Location: Louisiana, USA |
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I don't see a problem with it (hint: every plugin in that snapshot is more than just bypassed, they're all disabled)
Chris Cavell
CavellStudios Mastering
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| Re: what exactly are us mixers giving you MEs? [message #174766 is a reply to message #174760 ] |
Fri, 28 July 2006 19:25   |
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| Chris Cavell wrote on Fri, 28 July 2006 20:11 | they're all disabled
| assuming they aren't just awol...not a problem then.
"legit" mixing strategies that could yield j.j's screenshot might include: trying processors first on busses and then moving them to the appropriate tracks. or for a quickie master to make a ref. or if the mix engineer wanted to check how their mix would survive anticipated mastering. or to instruct the m.e. on what, or how much they think it will need.
jeff dinces
cerberus audio
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| Re: what exactly are us mixers giving you MEs? [message #174802 is a reply to message #174714 ] |
Fri, 28 July 2006 22:21   |
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Ronny Messages: 2739 Registered: April 2004 Location: Brunswick, Georgia |
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| jfrigo wrote on Fri, 28 July 2006 17:07 |
| J.J. Blair wrote on Fri, 28 July 2006 13:31 | Saw this on somebody else's master channel for an ITB mix. Just had to take a pic and share. I don't know how it sounded, but I'm wondering if there's any room left for you guys to compress after all this.
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This is indeed a growing problem. The artist or producer isn't happy with the mix unless it sounds like the latest finished CDs in his collection, so the mixer, instead of just making a listening ref, leaves it all on the bus and it gets sent to mastering. Once in mastering, any attempt at EQ just brings up the hash rather than helping the frequency balance, and the artist/producer isn't happy unless it's louder after mastering than before, so you add fuzz on top of fuzz and then it goes to radio where fuzz is added to the fuzz that was added to the fuzz...
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Are you trying to say it's a fuzzy situation? I agree.
The buttons look grayed out to me. Maybe he has them just available on a chain and uses them for different stuff one at a time. In this case all bypassed.
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