| bush says economy is stuck in a rut. [message #339087] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 11:48  |
MDM, Messages: 573 Registered: January 2008 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeRwTJGR5BM
if EVERYTHING has gone up, including foreign currency perhaps it makes more sense to consider the loss of value of the dollar..
NaaaH!
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| Re: bush says economy is stuck in a rut. [message #339136 is a reply to message #339126 ] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 14:15   |
ssltech Messages: 1877 Registered: May 2004 Location: Florida (previously UK) |
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| Jay Kadis wrote on Mon, 05 May 2008 14:40 | Those opposed: nay. We need to consume less. That's how to reduce prices. You wouldn't even notice the tax reduction.
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A-Fùçkîng-MEN! -NAY!
Gas-tax-holiday = easy populist gimmick that SOUNDS like a good idea. In reality, it will generate more demand than there'd be without it, then it'll just hurt even more.
This is a diminishing resource.
The answer is NOT to reduce taxes on it. -That just helps the oil companies.
The answer is NOT to start drilling for more in protected wildlife habitiat. -That just helps the oil companies.
Guess what Bush wants to do?
| MDM (maxdimario) wrote on Fri, 16 November 2007 21:36 | I have the feeling that I have more experience in my little finger than you do in your whole body about audio electronics..
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| Re: bush says economy is stuck in a rut. [message #339141 is a reply to message #339136 ] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 14:47   |
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| ssltech wrote on Mon, 05 May 2008 12:15 |
| Jay Kadis wrote on Mon, 05 May 2008 14:40 | Those opposed: nay. We need to consume less. That's how to reduce prices. You wouldn't even notice the tax reduction.
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A-Fùçkîng-MEN! -NAY!
Gas-tax-holiday = easy populist gimmick that SOUNDS like a good idea. In reality, it will generate more demand than there'd be without it, then it'll just hurt even more.
This is a diminishing resource.
The answer is NOT to reduce taxes on it. -That just helps the oil companies.
The answer is NOT to start drilling for more in protected wildlife habitiat. -That just helps the oil companies.
Guess what Bush wants to do?
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Here's my idea :
USE UP ALL THE GAS. This way, we will be FORCED to use something else.
Most humans are so lazy, that unless you give NO alternative, they'll just keep on doing what they do, until they are actually falling from the cliff like lemmings, wondering just how they got there.
Cheers
You, Flock of Seagulls, know why we're here?
Nick Sevilla
www.nicksevilla.com
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| Re: bush says economy is stuck in a rut. [message #339142 is a reply to message #339141 ] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 14:50   |
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Berolzheimer Messages: 808 Registered: April 2007 Location: L.A. |
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| noeqplease wrote on Mon, 05 May 2008 12:47 |
| ssltech wrote on Mon, 05 May 2008 12:15 |
| Jay Kadis wrote on Mon, 05 May 2008 14:40 | Those opposed: nay. We need to consume less. That's how to reduce prices. You wouldn't even notice the tax reduction.
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A-Fùçkîng-MEN! -NAY!
Gas-tax-holiday = easy populist gimmick that SOUNDS like a good idea. In reality, it will generate more demand than there'd be without it, then it'll just hurt even more.
This is a diminishing resource.
The answer is NOT to reduce taxes on it. -That just helps the oil companies.
The answer is NOT to start drilling for more in protected wildlife habitiat. -That just helps the oil companies.
Guess what Bush wants to do?
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Here's my idea :
USE UP ALL THE GAS. This way, we will be FORCED to use something else.
Most humans are so lazy, that unless you give NO alternative, they'll just keep on doing what they do, until they are actually falling from the cliff like lemmings, wondering just how they got there.
Cheers
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Unfortunately by the time we do that we'll all be dead from respiratory diseases.
"We have also sound-houses, where we practise and demon- strate all sounds and their generation....
Divers instruments of music likewise to you unknown, some sweeter than any you have; with bells and rings that are dainty and sweet. We represent small sounds as great and deep, likewise great sounds extenuate and sharp; we make divers tremblings and warblings of sounds, which in their original are entire. We represent and imitate all articulate sounds and letters, and the voices and notes of beasts and birds. We have certain helps which, set to the ear, do further the hearing greatly; we have also divers strange and artificial echoes, reflecting the voice many times, and, as it were, tossing it; and some that give back the voice louder than it came, some shriller and some deeper, some rendering the voice, differing in the letters or articulate sound from that they receive. We have all means to convey sounds in trunks and pipes, in strange lines and distances."--Francis Bacon, 1626
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| Re: bush says economy is stuck in a rut. [message #339143 is a reply to message #339087 ] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 14:50   |
amorris Messages: 495 Registered: June 2004 Location: florida |
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Its the investment speculators assuming china will eventually buy all they can get. all the envionmentalism and conservation is a little useless in the light of china as a market. remeber cement? anyone try to buy a lot recently?
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| Re: bush says economy is stuck in a rut. [message #339319 is a reply to message #339301 ] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 10:36   |
ssltech Messages: 1877 Registered: May 2004 Location: Florida (previously UK) |
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| Jay Kadis wrote | The day we get electric cars working the value of oil will drop to $10/barrel.
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...and the electricity to make those cars go will come from... -where?
Keith
| MDM (maxdimario) wrote on Fri, 16 November 2007 21:36 | I have the feeling that I have more experience in my little finger than you do in your whole body about audio electronics..
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| Re: bush says economy is stuck in a rut. [message #339381 is a reply to message #339333 ] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 13:38   |
ssltech Messages: 1877 Registered: May 2004 Location: Florida (previously UK) |
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...then they have a LOT more to do than just get electric cars working.
Right now what percentage of our electrical power generation comes from the sources which you mentioned, and how much comes from fossil fuel?
...Plus there's the national power grid which would have to be upgraded to handle the additional charging demand. (remember the northeast blackout a couple of years ago? -remember how close to capacity much of this country's power distribution system is?)
I'm not saying that this is impossible, just that it's not just as simple as "getting electric cars working".
...If we did this tomorrow, all we'd end up doing is burn more coal and oil to power the cars.
Keith
| MDM (maxdimario) wrote on Fri, 16 November 2007 21:36 | I have the feeling that I have more experience in my little finger than you do in your whole body about audio electronics..
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