| Re: Anyone using Soundblade? [message #215465 is a reply to message #215172 ] |
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 bigaudioblowhard
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| Jerry Tubb wrote on Wed, 24 January 2007 09:36 |
| bigaudioblowhard wrote on Wed, 24 January 2007 10:24 |
Had an unending load of problems trying to run it on M Audio Firewire 410 interface, so gave up on that and bought a Digi mBox 2 Pro. So far so good. The software interface is pretty slick too. Running nice on an iMac G5 PPC.
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Sounds like CoreAudio issues with the M Audio box?
The Digi mBox 2 Pro, is that the new one with the Word Clock i/o?
Good to hear Sonic is moving right a long with sB stability.
JT
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Yes, I think the CoreAudio firmware for M-Audio and Sonic were not playing well together. Hours on the phone and internet finding the drivers. Oliver at SS was very helpfull. I think he may have called M-Audio and talked to them, because a firmware upgrade appeared the next day. Still wouldn't work though. Sonic would just not lock to it. I just had to give up because a few projects had deadlines.
The Digi mBox 2 Pro does have external WC I/O but I haven't had time to try it. I've been running it with the S/PDIF input as clock source. My friend, who's way more into clock claims it sounds better than Internal, but I haven't made any null tests or anything to prove it to myself.
SS is working well but occasionally will quit suddenly, never more than once or twice a day and never during a take...yet. Anyone else having this?
| Bob Boyd wrote on Wed, 24 January 2007 10:44 |
I would recommend investigating Metric Halo or Sonic hardware options when considering hardware for soundBlade. Sonic is basing their hardware on Metric Halo interfaces. The MH hardware quality over run-of-the-mill Firewire/USB interface is evident from the time you get it out of the box. I currently only have the ULN-2 (without DSP) but I have the option to add the DSP and reflash the the ULN-2 to run as a Sonic 302 in the future should I choose to do so.
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What I don't like about the Digi mBox 2 Pro is that it doesn't have AES/EBU Dig. I/O. The one "pro" feature they left out of it. So running between devices gets a little tricky. Good that you can, for instance, go into an L2 with S/PDIF and out with AES/EBU. Thats the nice thing about the 302, AES/EBU I/O. Perhaps I will upgrade to that at some point, but I don't need to drop the extra dough on mic pre's and the AD/DA converters. And the new Dig I/O only interface is 8 Channel and $3000!
The Upgrade Wheel Of Infinity.
bab
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| Re: Anyone using Soundblade? [message #215510 is a reply to message #215465 ] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 13:20 |
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Bob Boyd
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| bigaudioblowhard wrote on Thu, 25 January 2007 10:31 |
Thats the nice thing about the 302, AES/EBU I/O. Perhaps I will upgrade to that at some point, but I don't need to drop the extra dough on mic pre's and the AD/DA converters. And the new Dig I/O only interface is 8 Channel and $3000!
The Upgrade Wheel Of Infinity.
bab
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No doubt.
The lack of AES on seemingly every other interface I looked into is what led me to the MH ULN-2 (Sonic 302 minus the additional DSP). The addition of hardware inserts in sB will be a great thing.
Bob Boyd
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| Re: Anyone using Soundblade? [message #215522 is a reply to message #199186 ] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 14:00 |
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I love soundBlade, but you're prolly gonna have to keep waiting. Just because they have an 8 channel interface, doesn't mean the app is 8 channel yet (not over here anyway!). So, almost...
On the other hand, the hardware is absolutely amazing. The best interface I've ever used, period. Mine's custom from MH with a few goodies, but the same guts as Sonics. The DACs are jaw droppers: its as if a whole new octave has been discovered on the bottom. I've never heard bass so accurate, rich and clear in my life, and the top is effortlessly smooth.
I no longer use my PT interfeces for anything but getting in/out of PT, and we'll be replacing the HDIO ADs and DAs in our A room with a couple of these things as soon as possible, because they just smoke the Digi interfaces (which don't suck at all). It's like having all the benefits of DSD with none of the bs. I highly recommend you try them out... they're miles ahead of old Sonic Solutions hardware (which was well built, but over-priced and under-performing) sonically and functionally.
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| Re: Anyone using Soundblade? [message #215524 is a reply to message #199186 ] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 14:27 |
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Bob Boyd
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I keep hearing the new 8 channel box conversion sounds great. Hope to hear them at some point. Are these different from the Metric Halo 2882?
Bob Boyd
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| Re: Anyone using Soundblade? [message #215529 is a reply to message #199186 ] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 14:55 |
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Completely different. New chipsets for converters, dsp and analog. I have a 2882, and the difference in quality was akin to the leap from the old 888/24 to the new HDIO3s in the PT world (keep in mind the 2882 sounds waaaaay better than the 888 ever did!). More than one letter-grade better.
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| Re: Anyone using Soundblade? [message #215530 is a reply to message #215522 ] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 15:12 |
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Reuben Ghose
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hmmm . . . are you sure? The last paragraph of the press release talks about "the eight channel option" that can be used with any core audio interface. It says it's a native 8 channel, 16 track engine.
Unless I'm reading something wrong here . . .
Great to hear that the hardware is top notch! Can't afford it at the moment but it's definitely in the plans.
Reuben
| Dave Davis wrote on Thu, 25 January 2007 13:00 |
I love soundBlade, but you're prolly gonna have to keep waiting. Just because they have an 8 channel interface, doesn't mean the app is 8 channel yet (not over here anyway!). So, almost...
On the other hand, the hardware is absolutely amazing. The best interface I've ever used, period. Mine's custom from MH with a few goodies, but the same guts as Sonics. The DACs are jaw droppers: its as if a whole new octave has been discovered on the bottom. I've never heard bass so accurate, rich and clear in my life, and the top is effortlessly smooth.
I no longer use my PT interfeces for anything but getting in/out of PT, and we'll be replacing the HDIO ADs and DAs in our A room with a couple of these things as soon as possible, because they just smoke the Digi interfaces (which don't suck at all). It's like having all the benefits of DSD with none of the bs. I highly recommend you try them out... they're miles ahead of old Sonic Solutions hardware (which was well built, but over-priced and under-performing) sonically and functionally.
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| Re: Anyone using Soundblade? [message #215924 is a reply to message #215808 ] |
Fri, 26 January 2007 22:47 |
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it's 8 channel . . . 16 track
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| Re: Anyone using Soundblade? [message #216405 is a reply to message #216318 ] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 06:43 |
Dave Davis
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I've been using "hardware inserts" in sB via Console for awhile. Basically I feed the lower panels to Console via DAW 3-4, route them to outboard or +DSP, and either capture the return in Console or sB (depends on the build - Console's more mature and always stable, sB varies with release).
The benefit of this approach, esp +DSP, is that I can split the signal in the graph as much as I want (parallel, MS, both at once, etc), add any sort of distortion/processing desired, and collect and mix the results in a Console mixer in real time.
The downside is the same as for most vintage outboard: you can't automate the outboard directly, so you have to work old school, song-by-song.
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Dave Davis
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| Re: Anyone using Soundblade? [message #216454 is a reply to message #216405 ] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 10:56 |
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| Dave Davis wrote on Mon, 29 January 2007 07:43 |
I've been using "hardware inserts" in sB via Console for awhile. Basically I feed the lower panels to Console via DAW 3-4, route them to outboard or +DSP, and either capture the return in Console or sB (depends on the build - Console's more mature and always stable, sB varies with release).
The benefit of this approach, esp +DSP, is that I can split the signal in the graph as much as I want (parallel, MS, both at once, etc), add any sort of distortion/processing desired, and collect and mix the results in a Console mixer in real time.
The downside is the same as for most vintage outboard: you can't automate the outboard directly, so you have to work old school, song-by-song.
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Dave Davis
www.soundimages.com
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Dave,
Sorry what's Console?
Also is there a download of the Soundblade user manual without signing up for the demo?
Tom Volpicelli
The Mastering House Inc.
CD Mastering and Media Production Services
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